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elle.m...@gmail.com  
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 More options 19 Dec 2008, 21:07
From: elle.m...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:07:19 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri 19 Dec 2008 21:07
Subject: Is this insider info or manipulation?
Over the last 2 days, Genentech (DNA) has risen almost 8% ($7+), the
highest it's been since 11/19, having been under the shadow of the
rejected Roche buyout bid, the financing of which has nevertheless
remained a matter of ongoing speculation.  That speculation has been
questioning whether Roche could even finance the deal if it were to
ever go through.  On Thursday 12/18, DNA stock began to rise on no
apparent news, with commentary found today on another site that
states: "unsubstantiated market chatter that deal financing for the
previously announced $89 per share bid from Swiss drug maker, Roche
may be looking good".  If the latter is true, wouldn't that be
considered to be insider information?  If not, is there manipulation
going on?  While I have owned Genentech stock for more than 10 years,
I will be glad to be done with it because I've seen this sort of
action too much.  Once 09 rolls in, I will be glad to either cover my
short call on it and sell or let it be assigned.  I'd rather be in
another strong biotech that does not seem to be as subject to apparent
manipulation.

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mclas...@gmail.com  
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 More options 19 Dec 2008, 21:34
From: mclas...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:34:59 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri 19 Dec 2008 21:34
Subject: Re: Is this insider info or manipulation?
I think your right.
insider info or manipulation seems to happen to all stocks not just
this one. There are just too many stocks and too many trades for the
SEC to catch.


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Jon  
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 More options 20 Dec 2008, 01:16
From: Jon <jonho...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:16:36 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat 20 Dec 2008 01:16
Subject: Re: Is this insider info or manipulation?
That's not insider info necessarily.  Insider info would be if the
stock was rising and there was NO chatter.  The chatter itself is
making the stock rise, just like when there is chatter that Microsoft
will buy Yahoo.  Doesn't mean it will actually happen, and when the
chatter stops the stock will go back down.  That said, DNA is
something of a merger arbitrage play, and is prone to the "chatter"
you're talking about.  In fact, pretty much any biotech stock will be
prone to acquisition or new drug FDA approval chatter, so you might
want to stay out of the industry entirely.

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jorgeba...@gmail.com  
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 More options 23 Dec 2008, 20:19
From: jorgeba...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:19:35 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues 23 Dec 2008 20:19
Subject: Re: Is this insider info or manipulation?
here is a little insider info... i myself dont own this stock yet i am
going to wait a little bit considering all of my money is in risky
ones right now.... if you are looking to invest stay here a lot of big
things going on with this company and POSITIVE results.... i work in
cancer research and my facility has a few trials with genentech and
things are looking up... but this is just 1 facility out of thousands
im sure but a lot of the MD's here where i work have TONS of financial
interest with this company and im sure its for good reasons.....

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hogan...@gmail.com  
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 More options 24 Dec 2008, 17:39
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Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 09:39:11 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed 24 Dec 2008 17:39
Subject: Re: Is this insider info or manipulation?
Now that is inside information! Thanks

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